NEW YORK — Basketball in the city that never sleeps has been dormant since the Knicks were unceremoniously ousted from the NBA Playoffs at the hands of LeBron James and his Heatles, who are having some unceremonious issues of their own right now.
It took only five games for dreams of partying like it was 1999 to result in a rude awakening: The Knicks need more if wins are to ever result the next time they take their talents to South Beach.
The question that most have been asking since the beginning of Linsanity is whether or not Jeremy Lin, Carmelo Anthony, and Amar’e Stoudemire could form a triumvirate worthy of cooling the Heat.
And that’s a question that only time will answer.
But a trio of Anthony, Stoudemire, and Steve Nash? You’d be crazy to pass up on that opportunity, and as I told Tommy Dee back in March on one of our TKBtv episodes, if I’m the Knicks and I had the opportunity to pair Nash with Anthony and Stoudemire, I’d have to do it, even if it meant I couldn’t keep Lin.
Obviously, the Knicks hope that they wouldn’t have to make such a decision, and if they’re lucky, they won’t. By now, you’ve probably heard that the NBPA will seek arbitration to determine—once and for all—whether Bird rights travel with a player who is claimed off of waivers. And if you have no idea what I’m talking about, read this piece by the New York Times’ Howard Beck, he explains everything magnificently.
If the NBPA succeeds, the Knicks will have Lin’s Bird rights and can match any offer for him this summer without spending any of their $5 million mid-level exception. In theory—if the NBPA wins—the Knicks could re-sign Lin and then offer Nash $5 million for up to four seasons.
Obviously, we don’t know if Nash would choose to play for the Knicks, but we do know that he has a summer residence in Manhattan, plays rec league soccer in Central Park over the summers, maintains a very close relationship with Stoudemire, would consider playing here even without Mike D’Antoni, and is well aware that the Knicks need a floor general of his caliber.
If the NBPA loses the pending arbitration, though, the Knicks could probably only afford to keep Lin by using their midlevel exception to sign him. That would likely cost them the opportunity to court Nash. He has given no indication that he’d be willing to accept the veteran’s minimum salary, which is all the Knick would have left if they had to use their mid-level exception to sign Lin.
So, if the NBPA loses the arbitration, the Knicks could find themselves in the predicament of having to choose one or the other.
If given the option, how do you not choose Nash?
Yes, he’ll turn 39 years old next season, but he is a known and proven commodity. He led a scantily talented Phoenix Suns team to a very respectable 33-33 record this past season and kept them in the playoff race into the final week while averaging 10.7 assists per-game. He’s one of the greatest shooters in NBA history, and is still probably the best pick-and-roll point guard in the league.
From a basketball perspective, Nash is effective with the ball and could create opportunities for Anthony, Stoudemire, and Tyson Chandler. But more importantly, he addresses one of the Knicks’ major needs with his ability to catch and hit open jumpers. Depending on the opponent, the Knicks could allow Anthony to isolate against his defender and kick out to Nash if/when a double comes.
As for Lin, he’s proven he’s no slouch, but I’m not sure that he’s headed to the Hall of Fame just yet.
Lin is slender and relatively weak for an NBA starting point guard, and his ball-handling and decision-making are both subpar. And while all three can improve over time, there’s no guarantee that they will. And if time is what you want, I’ll remind you that—especially with Stoudemire’s health concerns—that is not a commodity that this Knicks team has much of. Let’s also remember that by NBA standards, Anthony, Chandler, and Stoudemire are no spring chickens. Their respective ages by the end of next season: 29, 30, and 30.
No doubt, the attrition of Stoudemire is a concern, but there’s also no guarantee that Lin—once the meniscus tear that caused him to miss the season’s final 31 games fully heals—will be the same player that we last saw. The meniscus tear itself is not a serious injury, but I’ve had to laugh at the fact that everyone seems to ignore the obvious: a meniscus tear can be indicative of weak knees and/or a body that simply cannot stand the rigors of playing NBA basketball. The human body isn’t meant to take the kind of abuse NBA players endure. Some guys—like Steve Nash, Jason Kidd, and Ray Allen—can take it, but others like Greg Oden and Brandon Roy simply couldn’t.
Lin missed 36 games over the last 11 weeks. Nash has missed 39 games over the past 11 years.
We might know that Lin is no slouch, but we don’t know if he’s durable.
Does choosing Nash over Lin defy conventional basketball wisdom, and fly in the face of coach Mike Woodson’s comments that he absolutely expects to have Lin back next season?
Well, this Knicks franchise simply doesn’t have conventional basketball wisdom. And they never have. By signing Stoudemire to an uninsured 5 year, $100 million contract, trading a plethora of assets—including first-round draft picks—for Anthony, and subsequently amnestying Chauncey Billups to sign Chandler, the Knicks have mortgaged their distant future for a shot to compete right now.
Ironically, based on where we stand today, acquiring Nash would probably make more sense than any of those aforementioned moves did at the time. It would be the “all in” move that would give the Knicks the best opportunity to compete for more than just a meaningless bottom-four playoff seed.
Pushing Lin out the door for Nash may defy conventional basketball wisdom, but so did sacrificing everything for the chance to sign LeBron James.
Want to talk about defying conventional basketball wisdom? Since the NBA began anointing a Finals MVP in 1969, the award was given out 43 times. Only seven times has the recipient been someone who was not acquired by their team on draft night. So, after electing to acquire all of their cornerstones through free agency, for the Knicks, the ship has sailed long ago.
Those that believe choosing Lin over Nash would be the right move for this Knicks team are probably the same ones that thought Toney Douglas was the point guard of the future, Landry Fields was better than Danilo Gallinari, and that the Knicks didn’t need to go after Chris Paul because they had Raymond Felton.
In any event, at the moment, the Knicks are in the same situation they were in at the end of last season. Their point guard was absent during their first-round playoff loss and there are more questions than answers.
Nash or Lin?
There is a poll right beneath this paragraph, the comments section is open, and you can tweet me or Sheridan. He’s with me on this one.
Moke Hamilton covers the NBA for SheridanHoops.com and is the Deputy Editor for CHARGED.fm. For the latest on the New York Knicks and all things NBA, follow him on Twitter.
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jus says
steve nash doesn’t play soccer in central park, it’s chinatown
Jack Knickolson says
Nash?, 2nd tier star, just like Carmelo.
Trade Caramelol and Lin for Chris Paul.
Cheers
steve says
robert, you are more clueless than the author of this article. Have you ever seen Shump place Defense? And this isn’t ps3 you can’t just trade a few guys for one ‘sick guy’ bro.
And why would you want Nash as your PG when in the long run he will hold you back defensively. Hes great but his window passed to win a championship, too many young guards blow right past him.
Cmac says
I love Nash, and maybe Chandler can make up for some of this, but you will have 3 below average defenders on the court at the same time.
Mike says
Hey moke, you overlooked an important piece of capwrangling. This statement is technically true, but unlikely to happen:
“If the NBPA succeeds, the Knicks will have Lin’s Bird rights and can match any offer for him this summer without spending any of their $5 million mid-level exception. In theory—if the NBPA wins—the Knicks could re-sign Lin and then offer Nash $5 million for up to four seasons.”
If the Knicks use their full $5 taxpayer MLE on Nash, the “apron” will kick in and the Knicks will be subjected to a hard cap of about $74M for the entire 2012-2013. Right now they have about $59 M in cap devoted to STAT, Melo, Tyson, Balkman (counts against the cap), Shump, Toney, Jorts, and Jordan. If they gave $5M to Nash and another $5M to Lin (whose salary is limited by the Gilbert Arenas rule), they’d be at $69M for 9 players. That’s $5M for 6 players, which is tough to swing and even if you could, 40% of the roster would be league detritus.
(There is a loophole if Nash takes the smaller $3M MLE, but I don’t have time to cover that right now)
If JR Smith opts in it’s 71.5 for 10 players (and only 9 healthy with Shumpert out). They’d have $2.5 to fill out the remaining 5 roster spots. There is almost no way, even with veteran minimums that the Knicks can sign both of these guys because of that hard cap.
In any event, you’re otherwise right. I assume the union will lose this arbitration (we covered this over at our site http://www.knicksbricks.com) because the CBA is pretty clear on its definition of who qualifies as an Early Bird FA. If that’s the case,and the Knicks only have the MLE, they’d be stupid not to give it to Nash. This team has a 3 year window. The time is now. Unfortunately, if the money is equal no matter where he goes, I have to think Nash would rather go to a team that is a little closer to actually winning a title than the Knicks, as much as it pains me to say.
Jake says
Quote – “money? suns
title contender? heat
never get to touch the ball? knicks
go figure where nash will go” – sam 787 on ESPN
With teams offering back loaded contract (most likely the Nets), I don’t think Knicks can keep Lin, especially when you consider the “Melo Ball” part. Melo is probably better off with a combo guard who can handle the ball a little bit and can shoot well as a spot up shooter. Nash is most likely to join Miami. So chances are Knicks will get neither of the two. Nelson will be a much better fit. Might just well let Lin and Nash go where they belong.
Robert says
Why not both? Sign and trade Shump and Fields for Nash, resign Lin and move him to the two. Nash gets his $30 mill, bring back Bully to play back-up 2 and let Lin play back-up point when Nash sits. Who sez no?
Jimmy Dean says
You must not understand the salary cap if you think you can sign and trade fields and shump in exchange for Nash at a salary starting at 10 million per season.
Robert says
Fields and Shump have to make within 25% of Nash’s salary. Shump is making about $1.7 next year, Fields can be signed and traded for $15 mil for 3 years with the first year at $5.8 which we should be able to pay him on our early bird rights. We can even throw in a minimum player to be waived if Suns don’t want to pay Fields that much, or if the early-bird max is slightly lower (max depends on the league average salary). Although Suns shouldn’t mind b/c paying fair value for Fields b/c they are getting a very cheap asset in Shump.